Comment: “That Ego goes towards things and Awareness is at rest and lets things come to it.. was one of the best character assessments of the two i have ever (not) heard. Thank you Rupert. Like the lady says this is not mere knowledge this is practical tangible experiential insight and i feel so much gratitude for your work…”

 

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I have a small question about the
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mechanics of perception when we were
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doing the exercise earlier uh looking at
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a person as a person and then looking at
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them as awareness I found the second
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time that it was really hard to focus on
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her features or her eyes because it
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became that kind of they used to teach
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in my Buddhist meditation that kind of
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global view soft focus thing that was
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happening and I notice in your video
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when you were trying to do the gap
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between waking and realizing that you’re
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in this room at this time in this part
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of the universe the sheets were out of
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focus and then the sheets slowly came
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into focus and I noticed that when I
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focus on something I cannot help but
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make it an object and I cannot help but
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become an object in response to that
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object and so I wanted to ask about
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seeing that way that even if and the
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other piece of it was um there was this
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practice I used to have to practice
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seeing the Buddha in everybody so no
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matter how pissed off I was at my mother
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I saw herself as a little Buddha and it
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helped you know but all it did was
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replace the story with a better story
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it didn’t really do anything but it’s
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self help right but now when I was
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looking this morning I was getting that
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it’s not another story over there yes
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exactly so you’re quite right that it’s
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not enough to to see somebody to look at
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someone and to imagine that they are
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yourself to superimpose that belief it
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puts a sticky plaster over the separate
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self for 24 hours or for 20 minutes but
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it come it doesn’t really up root the
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sense of separation so what we were what
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we were doing this morning was not
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imposing an idea on top of our
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self but we were really trying to go
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deeply into our staying very close to
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our experience and you’re right that if
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we if we look at somebody in the eyes we
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there is very often a subtle wanting of
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something from them
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a subtle either of projecting something
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onto them trying to communicate some
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kind of feeling to them or wanting
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something from them and that’s why this
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morning we left we were left looking for
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sometime at each other in spite of the
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the discomfort that they that this may
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arouse because after a while this this
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negotiation between egos drops falls
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down and you describe it as it’s a
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softening of the focus you’re no longer
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projecting anything or wanting anything
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so you’re just looking clearly it’s like
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a neutral looking it may appear from the
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old perspective of the separate self it
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may appear to be even a little cold
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because it’s not all gooey and and
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trying to but it’s not cold it’s it’s
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actually just devoid of the kind of
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negotiating separate self trying to
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project something trying to get
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something so it’s kind of it’s more yes
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it can it can be seen as more neutral
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did you feel it there what the tone of
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it was a little colder and but also I
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noticed that I didn’t see any object in
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the field anymore and in fact I was
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noticing whatever quality she had sowed
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the lamp had and everything else had
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like there was no person there anymore
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it’s what happened and it wasn’t like I
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disappeared or anything I was like
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something was still looking in my
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experience but it it was like I didn’t
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really understand
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like I was trying to grok it you know
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and then it kept fading in and out yes
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you see that the separate self is always
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going towards an object so when we look
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at something with the feeling that we
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are a separate self we we go towards it
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we’ve focused on it we seem to go
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towards it from awarenesses point of
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view which is the only real point of
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view the object comes to it and it’s a
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very different quality of looking the
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separate self is always going towards
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something so when it looks at an object
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there is there is a sense that either
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separate self and going out from in here
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towards the object the awareness is way
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of seeing which is actually the only way
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of seeing is very different the object
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comes to it it doesn’t go out to the
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object the object comes back comes to it
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so it it what it’s always at rest it
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awareness I yourself it is is always
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here it never needs to go out of itself
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towards an object or a person it allows
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everything to come to it and this it’s
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you can see this in in in the way we
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here the way we see it’s a very
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different quality of seeing let’s just
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try it now let’s try it really evoke the
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sense of separation feel that what I am
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is a separate self and look at something
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this this flower or look at it as a
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separate self going towards an object
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the separate self might might want
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something from might want to go up to
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him I want to buy it white might want to
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smell him I want it to go towards it
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and now evoke or be in the presence of
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awareness be knowingly the presence of
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awareness and allow this perception to
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come to you to arise in you isn’t there
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a different quality of seeing isn’t it
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tangible the difference it seems to be
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the same activity of seeing but it has a
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very different quality now it may be
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that the focus softens but in some cases
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it’s not it’s not appropriate for the
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focus to soften for instance if you’re
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driving or if you’re if then it’s it’s
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it’s best to keep it so just if it’s not
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really about the fact of whether or not
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it’s it’s in focus although I understand
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what you mean when there’s a kind of
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softening it’s not really a softening of
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the focus it’s the softening of going
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out as an entity in here towards
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something outside of myself it’s it’s a
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deep relaxation it allows experience to
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come to us we are not moving through
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time and space we are not an entity
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always moving forward always destined to
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towards a future no we are always in the
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same place this ever-present experience
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comes to us you’re on the cusp of
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something very critical in terms of
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experience here because I also notice
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what happened when you did that switch
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is my old body relaxed yes perfect my
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whole body relaxed don’t you find I use
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a knowledge into the space you’re not
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going out yeah and in this in the
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looking that we did this morning we’re
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not going out to a person we’re not with
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with everything relaxes the body relaxes
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that because why because the awareness
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in which the in which the experience is
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happening is already total relaxation
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total openness so the body is taking on
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the qualities of awareness
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previously in the first way of looking
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awareness takes on the qualities of the
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body it becomes local and limited and
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then we go out but now the body takes on
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the qualities of awareness it becomes
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open it doesn’t have a motive it doesn’t
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want anything from the other so the body
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softens and opens it’s actually
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mimicking the presence of awareness in a
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way sharing its qualities rather than
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awareness sharing the qualities of the
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body the body now shares the qualities
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of awareness it becomes open transparent
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empty and it this it has a an effect on
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the way we see the way we walk the way
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we eat the way we speak to people the
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way we look at one another it that this
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deconditioning of the whole system of
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the body mind is is very is very subtle
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we don’t realize how deeply embedded in
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the system it the separate self is it
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permeates subtly the way we think not
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just the way we think the way we feel
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the way we see the way we move the way
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we the way we do everything so this this
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yoga of non-duality this tantric yoga
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that we do is is very very subtle it’s a
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way of
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reconditioning the way we see the way we
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perceive the way we hear the way we it’s
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an application of our intellectual
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understanding to these to every aspect
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of our lives I’m going to take this one
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step further because if you look at the
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headless way the purpose of those
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exercises in Douglas Harding is to get
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grok the whole idea that most of us here
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already get we get it intellectually
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yeah
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you don’t need a whole bunch of pointing
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out pointing in real to realize that
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this is this is yeah this is us this is
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that we are it’s the part that you just
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trying to get us to get which is in the
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body a microsecond by microsecond we’re
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always taking we’re solidifying into a
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self in relation to two objects yeah and
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and if you could think of 20 more
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exercises that would do what you just
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tried to do with the flower and break it
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down that would be so useful because it
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is not about really for me it’s not
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about getting the idea it’s about what
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she was saying it’s the embodied moment
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by moment perspective in the body held
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in the body way below our conscious
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understanding at the brainstem level of
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what the hell we’re doing in relation to
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the world yes you know enlightenment and
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Awakening is is overrated it’s because
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in the in the 60s and the 70s India was
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the place to go for enlightenment
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so our ideas of enlightenment were
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colored by the exotic culture of India
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and because we didn’t spend time living
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with sages if we went it was more this
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whole post enlightenment part of the
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process was just never spoken about
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so it was all enlightenment was the big
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thing and it was always colored by the
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exotic packaging of India enlightenment
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is not exotic its India as exotic but
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enlightenment isn’t and and and we
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muddle the two up so we put awakening
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way up here on a pedestal as the kind of
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the final goal it’s not it’s just the
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first step
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realizing our true nature is just just
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the beginning by far the larger part of
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what we do here is how is this how does
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this impact all aspects of our
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experience the thinking is is such a
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small I mean how much of our experience
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it is really to do with thinking I mean
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if we were to rate thinking along with
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with sensing with seeing with touching
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with hearing with tasting and where does
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thinking rate not very highly you know
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you you didn’t say to as I I’m longing
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to think more it is it’s not really what
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we want it’s not me it’s not it’s not
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it’s not very sexy it’s not it’s not
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juicy

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November 23, 2017